installation of spin on oil filter to a 212 engine

[Deleted User]

I attempted to search, but need help. Anyone remember seeing a thread about installing a spin on oil filter system on a 212 engine. If the block has the old cartridge system, is it a simple matter of removing the canister and maybe the lines to install the spin on base and new fitting/hoses?? Need clean oil. Thanks, Bob

Unknown

You got it buddy, just take the old off and put on the new. Bud

drdoug

I would not recommend this.If you don't know what the inside of the engine looks like,drop the oil pan and see.These systems only have a 5lb.pump.It is designed to make volume,not pressure and it only delivers it to the upper splash tray.Spin on filters are used with full pressure lubrication systems,and if it has ANY restrictions,it will slow the flow of oil into the upper tray,and could possible cause engine bearing failure! Changing the oil on your splasher engine more often than your used to on your modern car is not all bad.Remeber,oil is cheap compared to the rebuild cost of a splasher.:eek:

Unknown

Clutch guy is right on this, you do NOT want to restrict the flow of oil to the tray. Should have gone into more detail. The only way you want a filter on this system is if it is set up so that it only runs part of the oil thru the filter, a tee put in the line between the pump and the block so that oil still flows directly to the block from the pump. I assumed you allready had such a system and just wanted to go from cartridge to spin on.Here's the deal, actually it does very little to clean the oil since only a small amount is going to go thru the filter, but some guys just insist they have to have a filter and if you put one on you need to be sure your pump is in top shape . The pan on these engines is designed so as to trap sediment in the oil in the bottom of it. You need to drop the pan and clean it , not on every change but on a regular schedule, that would depend on how dirty the conditions you drive in are. Bud

[Deleted User]

I will third that. Forget about a oil filter we tend to want to get carried away on things , just clean the pan out good and change the oil regularly. Most people do not put enough miles on in a year on a 212 to change the oil but once a year. of course there are exceptions.

[Deleted User]

I bought the car in Oct 07 and since I havent changed the oil or filter yet, I am ready. I have looked for a cartridge(if that is what its called), havent found one yet, no NAPA store in our area(Florence, AL). Any suggestions where or is there a supplier on-line? Thanks for all your comments. Bob

jtroberg

I also have a 212 in my '37 T, I'm assuming that is about what you have. The reason you haven't found a cartridge yet is because the engine was not built with a cartridge, just a screen in the bottom of the oil pan which cannot be reached without dropping the pan. The posts on this subject above are completely correct, in my opinion. The only variation i did - and I can't necessarily recommend this - is I expoxy'd a small magnet to the drain plug. I had a VW once that had a magnetic drain plug and it seemed like a good idea, FWIW.



JT

nick s

bobdriveshudson wrote:

I bought the car in Oct 07 and since I havent changed the oil or filter yet, I am ready. I have looked for a cartridge(if that is what its called), havent found one yet, no NAPA store in our area(Florence, AL). Any suggestions where or is there a supplier on-line? Thanks for all your comments. Bob

If you really fell better keeping it
i remember correctly, this is right for the stepdown fram units not sure if its the same on yours. there are several varieties if you know what to look for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Napa-Gold-Oil-Filter-1010_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33661QQihZ017QQitemZ270223193916QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
but i would say plug the ports and forget about it

Ol racer

A Magnetic Drain Plug is a good Idea. I have bought a 1/2" 20 magnetic plug then drilled & tapped the large Hudson plug.. Another one I srewed into a bushing the same size as the Hudson Plug.. I think the 'splasher' motor would benefit from a large round magnet inside the pan from an automatic transmission, since you need to drop the pan ocassionally to clean the screen..



I would not put a 'bypass' filter on a splasher for the reasons already mentioned.